Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/03/2002 01:10 PM House RES

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SCR 28-JOINT LEGIS SALMON INDUSTRY TASK FORCE                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MASEK announced  the first  order of  business, CS  FOR                                                               
SENATE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO.  28(RES), Establishing the Joint                                                               
Legislative Salmon Industry Task Force.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0125                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CLIFF  STONE,  Staff  to Senator  Alan  Austerman,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  presented  SCR  28  on  behalf  Senator  Austerman,                                                               
sponsor,  noting that  the committee  packet  included a  sponsor                                                               
statement and fiscal note.  Mr.  Stone cited a list of issues the                                                               
task  force may  take  up this  interim  in investigating  public                                                               
policy  options  to assist  the  industry  in marketing  more  of                                                               
[Alaska's] fish:   transportation infrastructure and improvements                                                               
that   may  include   better   airports,   roads,  and   shipping                                                               
facilities, as well  as coordination of shipping  to new markets;                                                               
efficiency  in   harvesting  methods   and  the   feasibility  of                                                               
cooperatives such as the one  recently started in Chignik to make                                                               
catching  salmon  more  efficient;   and  improving  quality  and                                                               
developing new product forms.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STONE told  members  the money  spent  on research  produces                                                               
results that help  [the state's] salmon fisheries.   He indicated                                                               
hope  that the  task force  could  foster changes  in statute  or                                                               
policies to get this industry, which  is in dire straits, back on                                                               
track.  The  industry provides the State of Alaska  $50 million a                                                               
year in revenue  from taxes and fees, he said,  but that has been                                                               
declining.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0370                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GREEN asked  what  the task  force  will do  that                                                               
agencies such as  the Alaska Department of Fish  and Game (ADF&G)                                                               
and the Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute (ASMI) cannot.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STONE answered  that ASMI  had been  charged with  marketing                                                               
Alaska's salmon,  but has a  limited budget.  [The  marketing of]                                                               
farmed  salmon  has had  a  big  impact  and has  infringed  upon                                                               
Alaska's  salmon  industry,  he  indicated;  the  Norwegians  and                                                               
Chileans have  had seemingly unlimited resources  to market their                                                               
product, which looks good and is available year-round.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STONE, in  response to  concern expressed  by Representative                                                               
Green about  the cost, explained  that three  salmon-related task                                                               
forces over  the last seven and  a half years have  produced good                                                               
input but no concrete changes.   Therefore, the cost reflected in                                                               
the fiscal  note is for this  task force to have  enough money to                                                               
identify  and  contract  with  the   University  of  Alaska,  the                                                               
McDowell Group,  or [other organizations] that  could really help                                                               
pin  down the  problem.   The  task force  will  be charged  with                                                               
changing how Alaska  conducts business to compete  with the world                                                               
market;  otherwise,  the  markets   [for  Alaska's  salmon]  will                                                               
continue to decline.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0678                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN  noted the long  list of cosponsors  for SCR
28.  He  agreed with the need  to educate people in  the Lower 48                                                               
that  wild  salmon   is  far  superior  to   farmed  salmon,  but                                                               
questioned  the value  of spending  money to  find out  that more                                                               
needs to be spent.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STONE agreed  and told  Representative Green  he sympathized                                                               
that  it  seems  to  be  "just going  around  in  a  vortex";  he                                                               
characterized some  other approaches as uncoordinated  and willy-                                                               
nilly.   He  emphasized, however,  that this  task force  has the                                                               
support of  state leadership;  the hope  is to  have a  forum and                                                               
staff  to  really get  down  to  business,  bring in  experts  to                                                               
identify  the crux  of the  problem,  and come  up with  concrete                                                               
answers  and  recommendations  such as  legislation  or  lobbying                                                               
Congress for import restrictions or funding.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STONE pointed  out that  if the  $.5 million  were spent  on                                                               
marketing, the  marketers might  not even know  [where to  use it                                                               
best].   The hope is to  identify such questions so  that if [the                                                               
legislature]  gives $10  million  for marketing  through ASMI  or                                                               
some  contractor,   for  example,  this  task   force  will  have                                                               
identified those  areas.  He  reiterated that ASMI is  limited by                                                               
its  resources,  although  it certainly  has  the  expertise;  he                                                               
indicated ADF&G has some expertise as well.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 0966                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT  noted that  the task force  includes two                                                               
[Senators] and  two [Representatives], with nine  public members.                                                               
He asked how the members will be determined.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.   STONE   characterized   the  original   bill   version   as                                                               
"regionalized"; calls had been received  from all over the state,                                                               
he  said, with  recommendations  of certain  individuals for  the                                                               
task force,  including people nominating themselves.   The Senate                                                               
Resources   Standing   Committee,   however,   didn't   want   to                                                               
"Balkanize" this  or limit  it to  six commercial  fishermen from                                                               
the  different areas  as  well  as a  small  processor and  large                                                               
processor; Senator  Austerman had  agreed that a  better approach                                                               
is to  have experts  "from all  over."  They  had felt  that nine                                                               
public members at large would  provide flexibility to find people                                                               
who can deal  with commercial fish, Mr. Stone noted.   In further                                                               
response, he  specified that two  members each of the  Senate and                                                               
House will decide together [who will sit on the task force].                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1161                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FATE  voiced  an unspecified  concern  about  the                                                               
makeup  of  the  taskforce.    He  then  announced  that  he  was                                                               
"absolutely in favor of this,"  although he shared Representative                                                               
Green's concern about  the money.  He remarked  that usually when                                                               
there is a high-level forum  such as this, the federal government                                                               
will take  up part of  the problem;  the resulting task  force is                                                               
much more  effective than when  "things are done piecemeal."   He                                                               
offered  his belief  that this  [allocation for  the task  force]                                                               
will be money well spent.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1266                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KATHY  HANSEN, Executive  Director, Southeast  Alaska Fishermen's                                                               
Alliance, testified  in support of the  resolution.  Highlighting                                                               
the "huge"  size of past summits  and task forces on  salmon, she                                                               
indicated the  need for a  small working group to  determine what                                                               
research and follow-up  needs to be done, and then  to do what is                                                               
necessary  to move  forward.   Although ASMI  does a  really good                                                               
job, she said  there are marketing aspects ASMI isn't  a part of,                                                               
and  cannot  answer;  for example,  direct  marketers  have  some                                                               
problems  relating to  combinations of  regulations and  statutes                                                               
that  conflict somewhat,  and  these  individuals therefore  have                                                               
trouble doing  their own marketing.   A task force could  look at                                                               
that and  perhaps come  up with  simple solutions.   Furthermore,                                                               
processors and  fishermen need to  be able to talk  together; she                                                               
indicated  government sponsorship  is  necessary for  that to  be                                                               
successful.  She concluded that this  task force is a good way to                                                               
help move things forward.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1390                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MASEK, offering  her understanding  that there  were no                                                               
further   testifiers,  closed   public   testimony  and   invited                                                               
committee  discussion.     She  conveyed  her   support  for  the                                                               
resolution,  but indicated  she  hoped  the legislature  wouldn't                                                               
have to  provide a high level  of funding in support  of whatever                                                               
[the task force] came up with.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1500                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FATE   moved  to  report  [CSSCR   28(RES)]  from                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal notes.  There being  no objection, CSSCR 28(RES) was moved                                                               
out of the House Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

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